How to grow Elder
Elder seed responds well to a single winter spent outdoors, no complicated regime required. It’s a more forgiving species than most on this site, though the seed itself is soft and needs gentle handling when you’re extracting it from the berries.
At a glance
- Scientific name
- Sambucus nigra
- Family
- Moschatel (Adoxaceae)
- Can seed be stored
- Yes, dries and stores
- Type of dormancy
- Moderate dormancy
- Pretreatment
- Outdoor sand plunge over one winter (roughly 5–6 months)

Quick links
Seasonal calendar
Year 1
Year 2
- a Collect: Picked in September
- b Store: Nominal - pretreatment follows almost immediately
- c Treat: Cold stratification begins
- d Treat: Cold continues
- e Sow: Germination check
- f Grow: Grown on until November, traditionally the start of the lifting and planting season, though this window has been shifting and shortening with a changing climate.
| Stage | Year | Month range | Note |
|---|---|---|---|
| Collect | Year 1 | September to September | Picked in September |
| Store | Year 1 | September to September | Nominal - pretreatment follows almost immediately |
| Treat | Year 1 | October to December | Cold stratification begins |
| Treat | Year 2 | January to February | Cold continues |
| Sow | Year 2 | February to February | Germination check |
| Grow | Year 2 | February to November | Grown on until November, traditionally the start of the lifting and planting season, though this window has been shifting and shortening with a changing climate. |
Picking
Extraction and storage
Extract the seeds using a bucket or two, a flat-bottomed pole (for example, an old sawn-off spade handle), a sieve or collander. You’ll also need access to a hosepipe or water supply. The berries are mashed and the waste and seed separated through the sieve. Be gentle on the seeds though! They are delicate.
Pretreatment
The extracted seed should be mixed with equal parts horticultural sand or a sand/compost mixture (for these seeds the addition of compost to the mixture can help break dormancy). Use 50% leafmould or peat-free compost and 50% horticultural sand. For each handful of seeds add two or three handfuls of mixture. Select a pot that has enough room for this seed/sand mixture (and a bit more) and put a layer of stones in the bottom. Cover the stones with sand. Place the seed/sand mixture on top of this and cover this with 2-3cm sand. Label the pot and stand in a shady spot outdoors. Leave the pot outside for the winter.
Sowing
In February, check for signs of germination. If about 10% are showing signs of germination, they are ready to sow.
In a 1-litre pot sow four or five seeds and cover with no more than 5mm of compost or grit. Firm gently and water. On a seedbed broadcast the seed quite densely – aim for about 2-5mm between seeds. Firm with a roller or board to press the seed well into the soil. Cover with 5mm of grit.
Growing
Don’t forget to remove the weaker seedlings to leave the strongest when you are growing in a container.
Elder should grow quickly and be ready after either the first or second year for planting out. If you transplant them to grow-on for a further year, make sure they are planted into good, free-draining soil. The roots are very soft and can suffer from root-rot.
Elder should be kept moist at all times.
Planting your new tree(s)

When your Elder is tall enough, it can be planted into its new home. Prepare the site well by clearing away any weeds or grass and make a hole big enough to accommodate the root ball. Plant carefully in the hole, to the same depth as it was in the pot or ground, and firm back the soil. More tree planting details here.






